Saturday, May 14, 2011

We Don't Do That...# who knows anymore..

Turley: 'Torture Isn't a War Crime Because It's Never Beneficial. It's a War Crime Because It's Immoral'

Sunday, April 19, 2009

I Love De Catholic Pope!


The pope is an evil quack

Category: ReligionReproduction
Posted on: March 18, 2009 9:14 AM, by PZ Myers

You've all heard the news by now, I'm sure: the pope was traveling to Africa, a continent plagued with widespread sexually transmitted diseases adn also, coincidentally, one of the few places where Catholicism is growing, and he dispensed a little medical advice:

Speaking to reporters on his way to Cameroon's capital, Yaounde, the Pope said HIV/Aids was "a tragedy that cannot be overcome by money alone, that cannot be overcome through the distribution of condoms, which can even increase the problem".

The solution lies in a "spiritual and human awakening" and "friendship for those who suffer", the AFP news agency quotes him as saying.

Consistent condom use is associated with a reduction in the incidence of HIV infection of approximately 80%. It does not increase the problem. I know the Catholic church is reliant on the denial of human nature, something demonstrated regularly by the activities of its own priests, but at some point they have to recognize a simple reality: people like to have sex. You aren't going to talk them out of it without warping their psychology in a truly pathological way (again, witness the Catholic priesthood), but you might be able to get them to practice sex in a way that protects their health.

Claiming that condoms increase the problem is disinformation and outright quackery — it's a lie that will kill people. That is what the pope is doing on his little tour, spreading lies, doing harm, and setting back efforts to materially help the afflicted. "Friendship" won't help the children of a woman dying slowly of AIDS, nor will gilt-robed old men whispering about "spirituality" do one scrap of good against a dangerous reality.

Saturday, April 18, 2009

QUIVERFULL

All God's children

The Quiverfull movement saddles women with a life of submission and near-constant pregnancies. One mother explains how she embraced the extreme Christian lifestyle -- and why she left.

By Kathryn Joyce

Vyckie Garrison and family

Photo courtesy Vyckie Garrison

Vyckie Garrison with her children, from left: Berea, 17; Chassé, 16; Wesley, almost 6; Hazelle, 13; Andrew, 10; and Lydia Jean, 8 (Angel, 23, not pictured).

March 14, 2009 | Vyckie Garrison wasn't sure she wanted to use her real name in this article. Until last year, Garrison (then Vyckie Bennett), a 43-year-old single mother of seven living in Norfolk, Neb., followed a fundamentalist pronatalist theology known as Quiverfull. Shunning all forms of birth control, Quiverfull women accept as many children as God gives them as a demonstration of their radical faith and obedience as well as a means to advance his kingdom: winning the country for Christ by having more children than their adversaries. This self-proclaimed "patriarchy" movement, which likely numbers in the tens of thousands but which is growing exponentially, bases its arguments on Psalm 127: "Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are sons born in one's youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They shall not be put to shame when they contend with their enemies in the gate." Quiverfull women commonly give birth to families of eight, 10 and 12 children, or more.

Unlike TV's "Big Love" polygamists or traditionally large Catholic and Mormon families, the Quiverfull conviction does not follow from any official church doctrine. It's a cross-denominational movement among evangelical and fundamentalist Protestants who have adopted some Catholic arguments against contraception and who have spread their ideas through the booming conservative homeschooling community.

Quiverfull has gained exposure through cable TV's fascination with extraordinarily large families, including the 18-child Duggar family. The Duggars, an Arkansas couple whose husband Jim Bob was a former Arkansas state representative, have appeared on several Discovery Health Channel specials about their immense brood and currently have a TLC reality show, "18 Kids and Counting," that focuses on the saccharine details of large family life.

Garrison's marriage ended, and she became pregnant with her oldest daughter, Angel, during a short-lived rebound affair. She moved to Iowa to be near her mother and met Warren at a church picnic. After getting married, Garrison followed a new pastor's counsel to homeschool her growing family, which eventually led her to the Quiverfull movement, where homeschooling, Quiverfull and submission are intertwined convictions. As Garrison says, "If you take one, you pretty much have to take it all eventually."

Accepting every pregnancy as a unilateral blessing meant some radical leaps of faith, however. Put into physical practice, Garrison says the lesson of leaders like Nancy Campbell, editor of the fundamentalist women's magazine Above Rubies and author of movement books like "Be Fruitful and Multiply," "was, if pregnancy can kill you, think of the missionaries who go off to foreign lands and put their lives on the line. It's no different if you're risking your own body or life." Indeed, Mary Pride referred to her mothers as “maternal missionaries.”

Garrison complied. She'd had her first three children by cesarean section, but after coming to the Quiverfull conviction, she was swayed by the movement's emphasis on natural (even unassisted home) birth. During one delivery, she suffered a partial uterine rupture and "felt like I'd been in a major battle with Satan, and he'd just about left me dead." The doctor who treated Garrison lectured her for an hour not to conceive again, but she felt that stopping on her own would be rebellion. When she turned to her leaders for inspiration, she received a bleak message: that if she died doing her maternal duty, God would care for her family. For six months, she couldn't look at the baby without crying.

For much of that time, her oldest daughter, Angel, effectively mothered the newborn -- not at all uncommon in the Quiverfull community, where daughters learn early to follow their mothers in domestic service and sacrifice.

The strain began to weigh on Angel as well, though, and Garrison says her daughter began acting out: feigning injuries, bruising her own face and exaggerating stories of trouble at home when Garrison sent her to intern for Nancy Campbell -- embellishments Garrison imagines sprang from Angel's inability to adequately convey her unhappiness to the fundamentalist believers around her. "She knew that something wasn't right, but she couldn't articulate it because we were family of the year."

Desperate, Angel made a clumsy suicide attempt with high doses of Tylenol and Maalox at the age of 21, checking herself into the emergency room after the attempt failed.

The episode shook Garrison, who drove from Norfolk to Nashville to retrieve Angel from a psychiatric ward. She began to see her younger children as joyless and traumatized. Trying to step between the children and Warren, she enraged him with her assertiveness. Her fatigue became overwhelming, and her blood pressure sank.

Garrison began corresponding with an intellectual atheist uncle whose gentle questions helped her acknowledge her mounting crisis of faith. She wrote her uncle: "If, as I kind of suspect, it turns out that I don't actually believe in a personal God, I know I'm going to be exceedingly pissed -- knowing that I've done my best with the hand I've been dealt and it's cost me a lot and it's worn me down -- only to discover midway through that the game is rigged and there's no way I can win."

Garrison fled to a friend in Kansas City for several weeks, though she eventually returned for her children, ending up in an ugly custody battle that she finally won.

When she told an editor at her paper that she was getting divorced, his first words were "Cheryl Lindsey" -- a reference to Cheryl Lindsey Seelhoff, an early Quiverfull leader who left her husband and the movement and was subsequently denounced and run out of business by her homeschooling peers. "I think he was warning me," Garrison says.

The experience of Garrison's friend Laura -- a mother of 11 who collapsed under the demands of the lifestyle -- also helps explain why many unhappy women are afraid to turn their backs on the movement, when they'll be left with scant financial resources, years without work experience, and a dearth of references from a community that often shuns them. Laura was near suicide when Garrison helped her leave; her husband took physical custody of all 11 children, and her oldest daughter seamlessly assumed Laura's duties and tended to the younger children, who now view their mother as a backslider deceived by Satan. “She feels so incredibly angry, so ripped off, so used. Her new motto is 'Fuck God.'"Me and Laura both say we hope we don't end up as atheists," says Garrison, with a laugh, though she can't think of herself as anything else. This month, Laura and Garrison began a blog, cheekily named “No Longer Quivering,” to describe their experiences exiting the movement. Currently, Garrison is attending a relatively liberal Salvation Army church in Norfolk. She doesn't go for the faith anymore, but for the people, people in "bad shape" who remind Garrison of her childhood friends. She affectionately jokes with the pastor's wife that she's glad they “don't take the Bible seriously.”

For Garrison, taking the Bible seriously is synonymous with the punishing claims of the Quiverfull movement. But having lost her faith in the Bible-proofed patriarchy principles she was taught, Garrison is unable to accept any of it anymore. "I don't think you can get equality out of the Bible. You can't get away from hierarchy, strictly defined roles for gender, authoritarianism, submission, dominating." Many believers might take issue with that, but to devout believers of Quiverfull, patriarchy is simply "the logical conclusion of what Scripture teaches," Garrison says.

As for herself, Garrison says, "I gave my life to Jesus, and he didn't do with it what I would have done.” She feels as though she's in free fall, her “feet planted firmly in midair,” as the evangelical luminary Francis Schaeffer once remarked of non-Christians.

Sometimes it's exhilarating, but often she wonders when she'll hit the ground. The chaos and confusion that follow leaving the movement is a powerful deterrent to other women who face losing their children as Laura did, or becoming overwhelmed like Garrison. “The only thing that keeps these mothers going is they have incredible motivation,” says Garrison. “They believe they're building the kingdom of God." Though her children are thriving in public school, Garrison struggles to find the energy to mother seven children without the incentive, and threat, that the Quiverfull conviction provides: a promise that obedient Christian wives may, through their meekness, their submission and their posterity, inherit the earth.

From SALON.com

TEABAGING FUCKTARDS



This is what Frank Rich was talking about in his book "Whats the Matter with Kansas?"
How people can be leveraged to vote against their own best interests with knee jerk issues...

The "tea parties" are promoted as a "grassroots uprising" against "high taxes." Tea stands for "Taxes Enough Already." However, 95% of Americans will received a tax cut in the next year if the upcoming Obama budget passes. Only Americans with incomes above $250,000 will receive a small tax increase -- and even then their taxes will be much lower than almost any time in the last 80 or so years. This increase on the top incomes will help pay for some of the Republican-caused economic damage as well as reduce the budget deficits that the country has faced ever since the same income group received tax cuts after George W. Bush was elected. (This is similar to the tax increase in first Clinton budget that led to the great economy of the 1990s and large budget surpluses.)

The other complaint from tea party organizers is that President Obama is "spending too much." The increased spending in the stimulus package and upcoming budget funds education, unemployment checks, efforts to ward off foreclosures and other programs designed to help bring us out of the recession and provide jobs. These are programs that benefit regular people instead of big corporations and the rich.

So regular people who go to these corporate-organized tea parties are asking the government to undo their own tax cuts and reduce their own government services in order to keep taxes low for the very rich. I wonder if people have really thought this through?

And just so I don't forget:

They are not what they claim to be. They are not "spontaneous" or "grassroots." They are another corporate-funded campaign to trick people into supporting more cut taxes for the rich.

The idea is supposed to have started on February 19, when Rick Santelli of CNBC "spontaneously" complained about plans (click link for video) to help people avoid foreclosure, saying this is the government "subsidizing the loser's mortgages." Santelli called for organizing a "Chicago tea party" against helping people pay their mortgages. But investigators starting finding clues that the on-air rant was not spontaneous, and signs that the campaign was organized by the right-wing, corporate-funded Freedomworks . According to a March 2 New York Times story,

"Mr. Santelli's televised commentary appeared spontaneous to viewers. However, the Internet domain name ChicagoTeaParty.com was registered in August 2008 -- well before his commentary -- but not used until afterwards."

The events have been widely promoted by corporate-funded conservative PR professionals who specialize in "astroturf." This is a term for the use of money to create an appearance of widespread "grassroots" support. Currently the corporate-funded conservative lobbying groups Freedomworks and Americans for Prosperity, are organizing the events and conservative media including talk radio and FOX News are widely promoting them. Support appears to be coming from Koch Industries, the largest privately-owned company in the country. According to the Think Progress blog post, Spontaneous Uprising? Corporate Lobbyists Helping To Orchestrate Radical Anti-Obama Tea Party Protests,

Dave Johnson

Posted April 15, 2009 | 12:07 PM (EST)

Saturday, March 7, 2009

Just, Go Away!



“It must be Friday night because word leaks of yet another deadly executive order by President Obama,” said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, calling Mr. Obama’s intention “a slap in the face to Americans who believe in the dignity of all human life.”
Unless they happen to be Brown and from far away lands???

Friday, February 20, 2009

Some thoughts



On the "Requirement" that everyone has to be insured, like having car insurance:

Health care reps — “from big insurance companies to lobbyists for consumers, doctors, hospitals and pharmaceutical companies” — are “inching toward a consensus.” They agree that “comprehensive health care legislation should include a requirement that every American carry insurance.”

Of course big insurance wants a requirement that everyone be required to carry insurance. That’s all the more profit for them. If Obama does go for some kind of a hybrid of government coverage/private insurance coverage they at least deny insurance companies the right to discriminate. They also need to take some control over what premiums the companies can charge and put a cap on what profits they can make. But, most of all they need to deny insurance companies the right to overrule doctors when it comes to determining care for patients.

Of course the quickest and best thing to do would to put every American on medicare and then hire unemployed health insurance company employees to do the paperwork. But, that’s not going to happen until we come to a consensus in this country that health care should be a right and not a privilege for all citizens.

On a Truth Commission:

“not for purposes of constructing criminal indictments” means no justice. truth without justice is a public relations campaign. it is, frankly, bullshit. what mechanisms are in place to protect the whistle blowers?

this is just another opportunity to sweep criminal actions by the prior administration under the rug.

Jeez, Dems - show some spine for a change. Charge in with criminal indictments and do the job right! Quit dancing around the issue and either do it and do it right, or leave it alone. Wimps.

And when those facts point to crimes having been committed, what then? I think I know what Congress is doing here. They don’t want to directly go after the Bush Crime Family because that would cause a huge Republican’t backlash. So they will find out the truth and then they will have no choice but to ask for prosecution. At least I hope that’s what they are doing.


Sunday, February 15, 2009

SCUMBAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Bush Aide: Leahy Truth Commission Is ‘Terribly Dangerous’ Idea, Possibly ‘Deadly’»

Marc Thiessen, Bush’s former chief speechwriter, agreed. Not only would the investigations be hypocritcal, he said, but worse, they would be “terribly dangerous” because they would expose the “facts” of the U.S.’s interrogation techniques to Osama bin Laden:

THIESSEN: [T]he facts that they want to get out are the techniques we use to interrogate terrorists. The techniques that we used to intercept e-mails and communications and telephone calls. And when you get those facts out, it’s not just going out to the American people and to the viewers on television. It’s going out to Osama bin Laden. It’s going out to the terrorists who can use those information to get around our intelligence and plan the next attack.

So it’s very deadly — this is very deadly serious stuff. … And it’s terribly dangerous.

He also emphasized that the people Leahy might investigate “aren’t torturers, they’re heroes.” “They should be getting a parade on Pennsylvania Avenue,” he added.

YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SCUMBAG SHIT!

HEROES???!!!

I wonder how he would feel without Geneva Convention articles if he was a prisoner of an enemy of the US?

FUCKING YELLOW REPUBLICAN SCUMBAG!

WE DON'T DO THAT!

Wednesday, January 28, 2009

My Cousin, The War Criminal!




"Michael Gerson called her “a mix between Annie Oakley and Joan of Arc.”


Well, Just Fuck You! Sailing around with a bunch of Fucking Neo-Con Cock sucking Fucking Killers! Sarah Palin?!!! This was your Next Fucking Evangelical move on this country you no good sack of fucking lunacy?!!.
Why are these people just allowed to return to society? Why are they allowed to reap the benefits of the pillage, raping and destruction they caused to this country and it's constitution, standing in the world, to the families of the soilders killed in that ginned-up war that lined the pockets of so many? Why????



From the New Yorker
The Insiders

How John McCain came to pick Sarah Palin.

by Jane Mayer October 27, 2008


While Brickley and others were spreading the word about Palin on the Internet, Palin was wooing a number of well-connected Washington conservative thinkers. In a stroke of luck, Palin did not have to go to the capital to meet these members of “the permanent political establishment”; they came to Alaska. Shortly after taking office, Palin received two memos from Paulette Simpson, the Alaska Federation of Republican Women leader, noting that two prominent conservative magazines—The Weekly Standard, owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation, and National Review, founded by William F. Buckley, Jr.—were planning luxury cruises to Alaska in the summer of 2007, which would make stops in Juneau. Writers and editors from these publications had been enlisted to deliver lectures to politically minded vacationers. “The Governor was more than happy to meet these guys,” Joe Balash, a special staff assistant to Palin, recalled.

On June 18, 2007, the first group disembarked in Juneau from the Holland America Line’s M.S. Oosterdam, and went to the governor’s mansion, a white wooden Colonial house with six two-story columns, for lunch. The contingent featured three of The Weekly Standard ’s top writers: William Kristol, the magazine’s Washington-based editor, who is also an Op-Ed columnist for the Times and a regular commentator on “Fox News Sunday”; Fred Barnes, the magazine’s executive editor and the co-host of “The Beltway Boys,” a political talk show on Fox News; and Michael Gerson, the former chief speechwriter for President Bush and a Washington Post columnist.

By all accounts, the luncheon was a high-spirited, informal occasion. Kristol brought his wife and daughter; Gerson brought his wife and two children. Barnes, who brought his sister and his wife, sat on one side of Governor Palin, who presided at the head of the long table in the mansion’s formal dining room; the Kristols sat on the other. Gerson was at the opposite end, as was Palin’s chief of staff at the time, Mike Tibbles, who is now working for Senator Stevens’s reëlection campaign. The menu featured halibut cheeks—the choicest part of the fish. Before the meal, Palin delivered a lengthy grace. Simpson, who was at the luncheon, said, “I told a girlfriend afterwards, ‘That was some grace!’ It really set the tone.” Joe Balash, Palin’s assistant, who was also present, said, “There are not many politicians who will say grace with the conviction of faith she has. It’s a daily part of her life.”

Palin was joined by her lieutenant governor and by Alaska’s attorney general. Also present was a local woman involved in upholding the Juneau school system’s right to suspend a student who had displayed a satirical banner—“Bong Hits 4 Jesus”—across the street from his school. The student had sued the school district, on First Amendment grounds, and, at the time of the lunch, the case was before the Supreme Court. (The school district won.)

During the lunch, everyone was charmed when the Governor’s small daughter Piper popped in to inquire about dessert. Fred Barnes recalled being “struck by how smart Palin was, and how unusually confident. Maybe because she had been a beauty queen, and a star athlete, and succeeded at almost everything she had done.” It didn’t escape his notice, too, that she was “exceptionally pretty.”

According to a former Alaska official who attended the lunch, the visitors wanted to do something “touristy,” so a “flight-seeing” trip was arranged. Their destination was a gold mine in Berners Bay, some forty-five miles north of Juneau. For Palin and several staff members, the state leased two helicopters from a private company, Coastal, for two and a half hours, at a cost of four thousand dollars. (The pundits paid for their own aircraft.) Palin explained that environmentalists had invoked the Clean Water Act to oppose a plan by a mining company, Coeur Alaska, to dump waste from the extraction of gold into a pristine lake in the Tongass National Forest. Palin rejected the environmentalists’ claims. (The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against Coeur Alaska, and the dispute is now before the Supreme Court.) Barnes was dazzled by Palin’s handling of the hundred or so mineworkers who gathered to meet the group. “She clearly was not intimidated by crowds—or men!” he said. “She’s got real star quality.”

By the time the Weekly Standard pundits returned to the cruise ship, Paulette Simpson said, “they were very enamored of her.” In July, 2007, Barnes wrote the first major national article spotlighting Palin, titled “The Most Popular Governor,” for The Weekly Standard. Simpson said, “That first article was the result of having lunch.” Bitney agreed: “I don’t think she realized the significance until after it was all over. It got the ball rolling.”

The other journalists who met Palin offered similarly effusive praise: Michael Gerson called her “a mix between Annie Oakley and Joan of Arc.” The most ardent promoter, however, was Kristol, and his enthusiasm became the talk of Alaska’s political circles. According to Simpson, Senator Stevens told her that “Kristol was really pushing Palin” in Washington before McCain picked her. Indeed, as early as June 29th, two months before McCain chose her, Kristol predicted on “Fox News Sunday” that “McCain’s going to put Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska, on the ticket.” He described her as “fantastic,” saying that she could go one-on-one against Obama in basketball, and possibly siphon off Hillary Clinton’s supporters. He pointed out that she was a “mother of five” and a reformer. “Go for the gold here with Sarah Palin,” he said. The moderator, Chris Wallace, finally had to ask Kristol, “Can we please get off Sarah Palin?”

The next day, however, Kristol was still talking about Palin on Fox. “She could be both an effective Vice-Presidential candidate and an effective President,” he said. “She’s young, energetic.” On a subsequent “Fox News Sunday,” Kristol again pushed Palin when asked whom McCain should pick: “Sarah Palin, whom I’ve only met once but I was awfully impressed by—a genuine reformer, defeated the establishment up there. It would be pretty wild to pick a young female Alaska governor, and I think, you know, McCain might as well go for it.” On July 22nd, again on Fox, Kristol referred to Palin as “my heartthrob.” He declared, “I don’t know if I can make it through the next three months without her on the ticket.” Reached last week, Kristol pointed out that just before McCain picked Palin he had ratcheted back his campaign a little; though he continued to tout her, he also wrote a Times column promoting Senator Joe Lieberman, of Connecticut.

Anyway, if you want to read the rest of this shit...go ahead, I'm not wasting bandwith on it.

Monday, January 12, 2009

We don't do That Part who the fuck knows!!!!



Scarborough: ‘That’s the silliest thing I’ve ever heard’ that torture doesn’t work.»

Fucking retards! Give me 20 minutes with Joe Scarborough and I'll have him admitting to Fucking Micheal Jackson up the ass while Mika applied the lube! Fucking Idiots!!!!!!

Quote:

"Scarborough condescendingly asked Freeland, “Should we just bring them a birthday cake and ask them what soccer match they’d like to see?” In fact, the interrogator who successfully brought down Abu Musab al-Zarqawi — and who has written and spoken publicly about how torture doesn’t work — told Laura Ingraham last month he broke one insurgent after he gave him a copy of Harry Potter."

Sunday, December 21, 2008

Woman's Clown - Car Vagina let's Out 18th Passenger!



Michelle Duggar believer who endorses the Quiverfull movement and the teachings of asshat Bill Gothard, just brought her 18th child into the world yesterday, and husband Jim Bob said of the baby “The ultimate Christmas gift from God”, and they are looking forward to having more.

As someone said on an internet forum, there has got to be a pathology to this. Is the pathology her fundamentalism or is it something more? Just because someone can get pregnant doesn’t mean that they should keep doing so. It is unhealthy physically and her children cannot grow up in a mentally normal environment. The older ones are little parents to the younger ones and are slaves to the family “cult” as Michelle keeps spreading her legs for her husband and lays around growing babies inside her and getting lots and lots of media attention. Is that it? Do some women simply love the attention they get from the doctors, friends and family members when they are preggers?

Medical experts warn that a woman’s uterus has to be exhausted and extremely prolapsed from many pregnancies over the years, and that over the years a woman’s uterus loses the elasticity and strength to carry children safely. And with age, a woman also has a higher risk of producing children with birth defects and Down’s syndrome. Does this worry Jim Bob? Is he concerned about his wife’s safety? Nope…“We both would love to have more,” he said.

(A bit about this Bill Gothard from Wikipedia: Gothard was also accused by some of being hypocritical for not practicing what he preaches about conflict resolution,[16] and for his “quiverfull” teachings that married believers should eschew birth control and have as many children as possible, given that Gothard himself is unmarried and childless, even into his 70s)

Saturday, December 20, 2008

Thursday, November 27, 2008

Well, second one after the election, I believe...

I think I will continue on with this little blog to store up and collect the two-faced hypocrites from the roght, who as Buch and company emptied our pockets and standing in the world, cheered him on. And so it begins: From CrooksandLiars.com

Bay Buchanan Suddenly Finds Religion on Waste, Cronyism, Corruption and Government Spending


From Larry King Live Nov. 25, 2008 while discussing the potential stimulus package Obama is proposing, Bay Buchanan suddenly finds religion on government waste, cronyism and corruption.

This Republican cheerleader suddenly doesn't like that these things might go on when she sat silent about them all through the Bush administration. Bay, where were you at while they were playing football with pallets full of our money in Iraq and while Halliburton was blowing up $70,000 trucks at cost plus to our government? Where were you when they were giving no bid contracts for Gulf Coast reconstruction and they used about ten middle men in the process before finally hiring some illegal alien to do the actual work and stealing our tax dollars?

I could go on, and I'm sure the readers here can give a longer list of the things that Republicans have ignored while Bush was in charge of the theft of our tax dollars. To see the feigned outrage from those who cheered Bush along the entire way now that we're in a mess of Bush's making so huge it's hard to imagine how we'll come out of it is nothing short of infuriating. Bay, you're a day late and way more than a dollar short.



Wednesday, November 5, 2008

About Sarah's Wiring

View of a crowd in Sydney Australia after annoucement of Obama's victory


Well, this is a great day... and I'm looking foward to not having to collect all these tidbits about loonies on the campaign. So, one for the history books to ponder. The observation that is made clear on a Wonkette coments post by " Bearbait" about the way Sarah Palin thinks...and it is a very good window into the particular way her brain is wired:
bearbait says at 11:00 am, November 5th, 2008

Here’s a good ol’ fashioned Palin quote, just for old time’s sake. Got to get them in before she becomes, “Sarah Who?”:

And I do recognize this is an historical event, no matter which ticket of course prevails, there too, it’s so well for the progress this country is making, and barriers of course being removed and glass ceilings being shattered, again, as the representation on both tickets will show,” Palin said.

It’s not linear thinking, nor is it really circular…more like swirling, eddying thinking.

I Love it. And hopefully, we need not ever concern ourselves with her again. Just those like her, that do not think linear, but in a swirling method.

Tuesday, November 4, 2008

YES! Election Night Post!!!



Well, It's here and I* have no info, not even exit poll crap. But I have a feeling..... And to celebrate that feeling, I'm posting some coments on Sarah Palin... lest we all forget in the days to come!
To set the stage, Sarah, the Snowbilly, has just stopped for some coffee in her home town of Wasilla, after voting today:
As she waited for her beverages, a local reporter asked the governor how she envisions her role in national politics if McCain loses the election. Palin did not hesitate to muse about a future that might not include being vice president come January.

“You know, if there is a role in national politics, it won’t be so much partisan,” she said. “My efforts have always been here in the state of Alaska to get everybody to unite and work together and progress this state.”

“It would certainly be a uniter type of role,” she added.

Asked if she had any regrets about the campaign, Palin bemoaned “the state of journalism today.”

“The blogosphere, the two-, three-hour news cycles, where just too much is reported based on gossip and innuendo and things taken out of context,” she explained, adding that she’d like to help improve the profession because she has “great respect for the world of journalism.”

And now, those amazing coments, via crooksandliars.com:

Palin as a uniter is a stretch. She describes herself as being 'hardcore' pro- life and appeals to the right's base. She's not someone who understands the root of ideological differences so she's not going to be able to discover a middle ground. She doesn't understand cities, liberals, and those who don't see things the way she does. Also, Bush used to call himself a uniter too. I think they just mean that people should unite behind their views.
Posted By: | November 04, 2008 at 02:14 PM

?The blogosphere, the two, three hour news cycles, where just too much is reported based on gossip and innuendo and things taken out of context,? she explained, adding that she?d like to help improve the profession because she has ?great respect for the world of journalism.? Yeah I think Barack Obama knows a thing or two about internet rumors. Palin had to put up with people dissing her wardrobe, Obama has had his religion and citizenship openly questioned in the "blogosphere".

The blogosphere she so resents is probably the only place she's qualified to pursue her career in 'journalism.' I think this woman will be lucky to stay employed by the people of Alaska after this election.

Posted By: maggs | November 04, 2008 at 02:18 PM

Well, based on these comments, it's obvious that Gov. Plain has the chutzpah for national politics. Unhappily, I think she's going to find out within a week or so that the same liberal east coast elites who picked her up, dressed her, and put the words up on the teleprompter for her to read are pretty much done with her. It's back to the great white north for you, honey. *wink*

Posted By: nhunter | November 04, 2008 at 02:22 PM


Palin says she has "great respect for the world of journalism".....so maybe that's why she refused to speak to so many journalists? Pure Palin logic, I guess. Go home, Barbie, practice and study a bit and perhaps you can return with some credibility when you learn to communicate in clear and acceptable English language sentences. Or, better yet....just go home!

Posted By: Susan | November 04, 2008 at 02:28 PM

Sorry Gov. Bemoan it all you want, presidential campaign news isn't sent by carrier pigeon. It's all about information in the 21st century. Campaigns can't control it once it's out, they can only react or not react. And simple platitudes don't cut it anymore.

Posted By: Sorry Gov. | November 04, 2008 at 02:39 PM

Maybe she could take one or two English classes before becoming the "world reknown' journalism savior. It might make it easier for the rest of the United States to be able to understand what the heck she is trying to say. But what the heck, she can try it out on the polar bears that are not in danger of extiction.

Posted By: Dismayed | November 04, 2008 at 02:53 PM

Caribu Barbie is about to fade into the Alaskan sunset... And will only be seen on SNL re-runs! And we will all muse, just what was he thinking - Sarah Palin for VP - preposterous!

Posted By: Hans Anderson | November 04, 2008 at 02:54 PM

Asked if she had any regrets about the campaign, Palin bemoaned "the state of journalism today."

"The blogosphere, the two, three hour news cycles, where just too much is reported based on gossip and innuendo and things taken out of context,"

Sarah, cry me a river!

You, John McCain, and the McCain campaign are responsible for disseminating almost all of the "gossip and innuendo and things taken out of context" in this Presidential campaign.


Posted By: nOoG | November 04, 2008 at 02:56 PM

"?great respect for the world of journalism.?"

(spit take) the blatant hypocrisy she spews deadpan is almost like it was written by SNL as an absurd sketch character. Wow.....

Well if this makes me an elitist snob I can live with that but I sure won't miss those over pronounced r's and that "folksy" cadence that accompanied the politics lite babble (wink)

Posted By: Wink Martindale | November 04, 2008 at 02:59 PM
I hate to pile on?oh, wait, I don't?but she really does lie outrageously. Not one single press conference! Not one! But she unites clear-thinking people in the opinion that she's a wack job, I'll admit that. I can't wait to hear the McCain people letting their hair down.

Posted By: MattinPA | November 04, 2008 at 03:00 PM

I hate to pile on?oh, wait, I don't?but she really does lie outrageously. Not one single press conference! Not one! But she unites clear-thinking people in the opinion that she's a wack job, I'll admit that. I can't wait to hear the McCain people letting their hair down.

Posted By: MattinPA | November 04, 2008 at 03:00 PM

It's a little difficult to believe, but Palin actually has a journalism degree. She should have had training in college on conducting interviews, the difference between factual reporting and biased slant, etc. I know this because I also have a degree in journalism, so I know what is involved in the curriculum. Maybe it's because she skipped around to so many different schools before finally graduating - what was it, five different colleges in six years? Anyway - what I really don't get is that for someone who has a college degree in a communication field, one would think that she would have been better trained to communicate - prepared to be the object of interviews, think on her feet and answer "out of the blue" questions, etc. Based on her performance over the course of the campaign, I don't see her having the skills or experience to make any kind of difference in the journalism field. Not to mention that she's such a whack job that nobody outside the hardcore conservative right is going to listen to her anyway...

Posted By: John | November 04, 2008 at 03:11 PM

The funny thing is that the ONE degree Palin has (that took 5 schools and 6 years to get) is in JOURNALISM. She shot herself in the foot concerning the press. Couric's interview was entirely fair. She failed to name a single publication she reads AND a supreme court decision she disagrees with. She told the media she doesn't know what a vice president does. She trashes the MSM but even the campaign staff have trashed her for being a 'diva' and 'going rogue'. Stop whining about the media, Sarah. Enjoy governing Alaska until you fail to get re-elected.

Posted By: Renae | November 04, 2008 at 03:21 PM

Left Wasilla millions in debt, left its once pristine lake rimmed with strip malls and water so polluted the salmon are gasping for oxygen, lied about the bridge to nowhere, chased down a guy who used his office e-mail for private use & did the same thing herself, - defamed and slandered obama without losing a beat or looking back - and she thinks she has a future? not unless the voters have a collective lobotamy - back to wasilla for this right wing dunce - they can have her

Posted By: winchestereast | November 04, 2008 at 03:27 PM

Oh, that's rich. Sarah Palin, the woman who wouldn't know the Constitution from constipation, is now going to parachute in to save journalism? I look forward to that. If anything, the blogs and Internet-borne journalism SAVED this election cycle from the hyper-active smear-and-spin efforts of the McCain campaign. Mainstream media, bound by a rigid contract to proffer equal time and ensure an equivalency of ideas, allowed some truly caustic lies to be disseminated. Fortunately, those pesky blogs were there to hold McCain's vile propaganda operation to account. Go back to Alaska, Sarah. Hunt moose from helicopters. Engage in your fringe prayer warrior politics. And ham it up with Todd's secessionist pals. But leave the Lower 48 be in peace. We beg you. Seriously.

The scary and sad part is that she comes on like she really believes in what she says. McCains' own campaign handlers know everthing they wanted her to say and do was only a script to get votes but she REALLY seems to believed in all that hype and all the lies, that's why people in her own camp thinks she's a whack job. She's a perfect fit to be Grand Wizard of the KKK but certainly not Vice President of the United States.

Posted By: Joe the native american | November 04, 2008 at 03:45 PM

Well, Thats some. There are hundreds, literally!! But I just wanted to capture the emotion this evening ( afternoon for the comments).
OK, Theres history to be made!!!
Zambello!!

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Sunday, October 26, 2008

Good One From You Tube

This Woman is just Fucking Dangerous!!!!

Palin Bizarre Rant Warns of Communist Nightmare State


Saturday, October 25, 2008

The Whatsup Guys...8 years later

Just want to save some of these...



These are some comments from ThinkProgress.Org about Palin's "Fruitfly" statements of October 25th.
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OceanDog Says:

LOVED Richard Wolffe’s smackdown of Palin on Keith…

"I’m going to be as restrained and measured as I possibly can about this. This is the most mindless, ignorant, uninformed comment that we have seen from Gov. Palin so far, and there’s been a lot of competition for that prize. Fruit flies are … a standard scientific model in genetic research along with a whole range of other organisms and cells, including mice, rats, there’s nothing fluffy or funny about it."


satirev Says:

The profound depth of this woman’s ignorance is nothing short of astounding. Every time she opens her mouth, she proves what a buffoon she is. No wonder Rove wanted to sequester her. I have yet to observe her complete a complete original thought into a well-constructed, gramatically-accurate sentence! She’s one pathetic “tool” at this point. I’m anxious to see what occurs when she returns to Alaska at this point. I’ve heard talk ranging from total censure to impeachment.

Since it broke yesterday that when she became a “candidate” she called her staff and had them alter expense reports to make it appear that the good taxpayers of the state were paying for her children as “invited guests” instead of “citizen leeches” as they more aptly became.

In reading this outrageous abuse of power in using the taxpayer’s money, one instance comes to mind: Las Vegas - Governor’s meeting. She occupied a room for 5 nights to the tune of $700+ per night and attended only one (1) meeting which consisted of 4 hours!! She also had the taxpayers fund her kids transportation and meals.

The future for this woman becomes more grim by the moment. Just like Joe the Plumber who has descended into the male laughingstock and collateral damage of the capricious trainwreck called the McCain Campaign, Secessionist Simpleton Sarah has become Joe’s female counterpart. Her political future is over and she will even top Dan Quayle now in being the dumbest veep candidate ever in our history.

Thanks to Sarah, Dan Quayle’s political capital just went up!

CageyCretin Says:

Sciency stuff scares her. Fruit flies, stem cells, and all sorts of sciency stuff that attempts to slap gOD in the proverbial face. Well, Sarah says “thanks but no thanks” to science. Science cannot be wed with religion… I guess they’re the same gender, and we know how her gOD feels about THAT sort of thing….

Sarah Palin, bringing science back to the Dark Ages in the name of gOD.

Interesting that she did not say that research would be funded to seek cures: she offered a massive welfare program. (just pointing out the hypocracy — myself, I think that the welfare AND scientific research is needed).

Palin just continues to amaze us all. Not only with her ignorance (the novelty of that is starting to wear off, believe it or not), but the PRIDE she appears to take in her ignorance.

Drosophila research has yielded benefits for many physical conditions afflicting humans — autism, brain disorders, cancer — just to name a few. My mother is a retired developmental biologist who spent a great deal of time on fruit fly research, which was also the subject of her doctoral dissertation. She could enlighten us all on what the benefits of this research have done for us over the years far better than I ever could.

I suspect that Palin’s answer to people who have special needs consists of praying to God for healing. Anything else would be far beyond her comprehension.


Wednesday, October 22, 2008

Fuck You RNC



Or Palin for that matter, Maybe she got the talking points from the RNC, or maybe they just came naturally to this dimwitt...
What ever, I found this short but cogent piece at the Smirking Chimp by
RJ Eskow:
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Excuse Me, But Didn't McCain and Palin Just Say That the Victims of 9/11 Weren't 'Real Americans'?
October 22, 2008 - 11:25am
Some questions about a colleague's work came up yesterday during a business call. We couldn't ask her about them, though. Why? Because she was somewhere between the 95th and 99th tower of the World Trade Center's North Tower on the morning of September 11, 2001.

Sarah Palin says that the 'real America' is in small towns and formerly red states. She says the people in the cities and in the North aren't 'pro-American.' Yet most of the people who lost their lives at the World Trade Center lived in the cities and suburbs.

Not real Americans? The firefighters who sacrificed their lives by going back into a burning building to save lives? Not real Americans? The friends and colleagues who died in pitch black crowded stairwells in some Boschean vision of hell? Or broke a window and jumped from the 101st floor rather than continue to feel their skin grow hotter and hotter?

Not real Americans? The wives and husbands who continue to grieve, the parents who lost sons and daughters, the children whose healing is yet to come?

They're saying that Northern Virginia isn't the real America, either. Joe McCain says it's "communist." Another McCain spokesperson says it's not even the real South.

Nothern Virginia. You know - where the Pentagon is.


Sunday, October 19, 2008

I Guess this fits pretty well with the post directly beneath!



History does in deed repeat itself, if good men and women do nothing

This one's for posterity.



A year from now, I won't believe this.

From Crooksandliars.com:

First Matthews tried to get Bachmann to tell his audience, per Sarah Palin's homage to "pro-American places," what parts of America are anti-American. She danced around the question and kept harking on the talking points programmed into her playback. So then he tried another tack:

Matthews: How many Congresspeople, members of Congress are in that anti-American crowd you describe?

Bachmann: [Deer in the headlights]

Matthews: How many Congresspeople you serve with -- I mean, there's 435 members of Congress --

Bachmann: -- well right now --

Matthews: -- how many are anti-American in that Congress right now that you serve with?

Bachmann: You'd have to ask them, Chris, I'm focusing on Barack Obama and the people he's been associated with --

Matthews: But do you suspect that a lot of the people you serve with --

Bachmann: -- and I'm very worried about their anti-American nature.

Matthews: Well, he's the United States Senator from Illinois, he's one of the people you suspect as being anti-American. How many people in the Congress of the United States do you think are anti-American? You've already suspected Barack Obama. Is he alone, or are there others?

Bachmann: [Deer in the headlights]

Matthews: How many do you suspect of your colleagues do you suspect of being anti-American?

Bachmann: I would say, what I would say is that the news media should do a penetrating expose and take a look -- I wish they would. I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out, are they pro-America or anti-America? I think the people would love to see an expose like that.